tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6082091182757859887.post1764894137751377980..comments2023-11-05T03:28:22.999-08:00Comments on Collective Action and Cooperation: Choices: Real and ArtificialCollective Action and Cooperationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08732376452135054834noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6082091182757859887.post-53196488830884129422012-02-15T09:27:34.074-08:002012-02-15T09:27:34.074-08:00The choice seems real; all managers are constraine...The choice seems real; all managers are constrained with certain conditions and seek out a trade-off between the apparently conflicting objectives.So, one can try to balance out his/her interest to work in a desired sector and the monetary constraints hindering that. The condition here is not as extreme as it sounds, i.e it isn't like working in the rural sector will lead to a life of very limited means and working in a non-rural sector will be a prosperous one.There exists a middle path and probably that is what IRMA has been doing in terms of placements. <br />Parneet Kaur(32028)PKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05322962646370604008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6082091182757859887.post-61171666610996412802012-02-14T10:19:52.265-08:002012-02-14T10:19:52.265-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Sameera Mushinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07896069327389819528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6082091182757859887.post-76115346058979398762012-02-14T10:19:50.751-08:002012-02-14T10:19:50.751-08:00Reason as the oxford dictionary defines is intell...Reason as the oxford dictionary defines is <i> intellectual faculty by which conclusions are drawn; sanity; sense </i> In the present world, reason is something which is acceptable to the society at large. Thinking out of the box need not always be socially accepted at the inception but <i>might</i> led to applauds later. To do something which is not appreciated by the larger masses needs guts, and less ties (social, family or economic). Taking admission in IRMA is one step to such “madness”, keeping the spirit tell graduating is a another… keeping the flame burning tell the end!!?? <b>Miracle! </b><br /><br />Sameera Mushini<br />P32038Sameera Mushinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07896069327389819528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6082091182757859887.post-24265368720428617962012-02-14T09:59:47.938-08:002012-02-14T09:59:47.938-08:00Choices are real or artificial also depends on a p...Choices are real or artificial also depends on a participant’s point of view .It also depends on how aspirants perceive IRMA, when they aspire to come here weather they just wanted to be a in B-school out of no or inferior choices or are they really willing to work in the development sector. I think IRMA should reconsider its positioning and reflect on whether it wants to be perceived as a typical b-school or of an institute that creates change agentsshashank- EXPLORING MYSELFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17369246453428536978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6082091182757859887.post-49665597800946443492012-02-14T06:37:03.969-08:002012-02-14T06:37:03.969-08:00Freedom is a very contextual word. A student who h...Freedom is a very contextual word. A student who has a choice of doing whatever he likes but doesn't have the competence of doing the work that he wants to, what kind of freedom would that be. Similarly a labor who has pledged his labor may have done this because he did not have any choice at all.Truly the options available in the 3 cases are artificial choices from among the options available. I would not consider that freedom in true sense.But yes it is better than having no options at all. <br />kajal kumari.<br />32074.kajal kumarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04205922158636691638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6082091182757859887.post-46788299448561534752012-02-14T06:20:58.146-08:002012-02-14T06:20:58.146-08:00The mission of irma is to produce managers for rur...The mission of irma is to produce managers for rural sector but when the placement comes up student ended up in corporates reason because they weigh not only the amount that would be left after EMI ,Personal expenses but also their willingness to work in field in scorching sun. Hence in order to make this sector a viable option we have to incentivise (in terms of salary) those who are at least willing to join it. So that the unreasonable beings “who have passion for rural sector” can join it.<br />Rahul 32032Rahulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14706849418966226426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6082091182757859887.post-35780725079562903952012-02-13T09:55:38.145-08:002012-02-13T09:55:38.145-08:00In context of IRMA ‘unreasonable’ are those studen...In context of IRMA ‘unreasonable’ are those students who go to development sector in spite of the high paying jobs available in other sectors. But out of the total students coming to IRMA, only less than 5% are actually ‘unreasonable’ by nature. As an institute, IRMA’s success depends on its ability to change a fraction of ‘reasonables’ to ‘unreasonables’. For this purpose it has institutionalized the field work segment, so as to sensitize the students towards the problem of the villagers and the rural lifestyle, but its success is questionable. <br /><br />-Komal Didwania (32076)komalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09302498285622709941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6082091182757859887.post-26913125658861777072012-02-13T09:09:11.456-08:002012-02-13T09:09:11.456-08:00The state provides funding for students' educa...The state provides funding for students' education but at the end of it the students are free to do as they wish.I don’t think the state should lay down conditions with regard to its assistance.It can push through its agenda through by official policies favouring particular sectors of the economy and people eventually would end up working there. However, to expressly lay down rules relating to state assistance would not serve the purpose. Nothing that is fed forcibly is ever digested properly. People will somehow find a way to get around it.Abhinav Deep Sinhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05030760243618309790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6082091182757859887.post-31820999478619106352012-02-12T11:21:57.801-08:002012-02-12T11:21:57.801-08:00If you are subsidizing the education then you can ...If you are subsidizing the education then you can put a condition that if the student doesn't work in the rural sector then, the student have to payback the amount of subsidy spent on him. Then it will be his decision where to work.<br /><br />Deepak Sharma<br />P32013Deepak Sharmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17224015784060315635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6082091182757859887.post-78991248948616738632012-02-11T06:58:06.577-08:002012-02-11T06:58:06.577-08:00I feel that the choices that IRMA graduates face, ...I feel that the choices that IRMA graduates face, are real and not artificial. The choice that a graduate exercises depends on how much he/she values working in the development sector, and the value attached to working in the development sector will vary from individual to individual. If this value exceeds the higher pay foregone, one will work in the development sector and will somehow manage the constraints like loans taken for study. Students choose depending upon their preferences but they cannot say that the choices that they are not going for are not real.<br />Raj kamal goldi<br />32033Raj kamal goldihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07475944101952091493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6082091182757859887.post-63132941250700577122012-02-11T03:28:58.034-08:002012-02-11T03:28:58.034-08:00Extreme 1: like in military training, a person is ...Extreme 1: like in military training, a person is filled with sentiments of patriotism that's why it gets success. In IRMA's context, if IRMA is capable enough to fill someone with passion for rural development, only then student will study properly.<br />Extreme 3: In such a set-up, education will be taken for-granted by the student. <br />Extreme 2: Student will try to study properly, because only then he can get a good job out of those artificial choices and can return the loan. <br />Gurpreet<br />32066Gurpreethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12939080294993176517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6082091182757859887.post-84170521393956200492012-02-10T12:59:14.154-08:002012-02-10T12:59:14.154-08:00When faced with problems, be it social, economical...When faced with problems, be it social, economical or environmental- if we go on adapting to them, then we can very well predict where to we are heading. Addressing the root of the problem, may be a gigantic task. One may need to be passionate as Abhishek pointed out, to find oneself going against hegemonic power structures, or well-established systems. One needs to be crazy enough because it goes against the rationale of maximizing gains with minimum inputs. There is always the possibility of the efforts going vain. It is here where the social reformer or for that matter any change agent or entrepreneur is valued.<br />Antony(32006)Antonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13503594363432647648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6082091182757859887.post-12313573439973038172012-02-10T12:59:10.943-08:002012-02-10T12:59:10.943-08:00The vested interest of Loan Provider and the missi...The vested interest of Loan Provider and the mission of IRMA create conflict. Above all participants come to IRMA with their own objectives and perspective which usually includes aspirations of being the part of corporate world. If given a choice(which is proved in this placement season, as some of the participants have shown a courage to leave the attractive offers), some of them would serve the mission of IRMA, but most of them still like to be evaluated in terms of salary drawn and by the designations and posts they hold.Priyankahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15013704487965511773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6082091182757859887.post-62500613123502291962012-02-10T12:58:40.652-08:002012-02-10T12:58:40.652-08:00The vested interest of Loan Provider and the missi...The vested interest of Loan Provider and the mission of IRMA create conflict. Above all participants come to IRMA with their own objectives and perspective which usually includes aspirations of being the part of corporate world. If given a choice(which is proved in this placement season, as some of the participants have shown a courage to leave the attractive offers), some of them would serve the mission of IRMA, but most of them still like to be evaluated in terms of salary drawn and by the designations and posts they hold.Priyankahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15013704487965511773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6082091182757859887.post-17326230615839438052012-02-10T12:22:12.216-08:002012-02-10T12:22:12.216-08:00In all conditions like you work hard so that you a...In all conditions like you work hard so that you are compensated enough to run a family; a student’s obligation to pay the debt (both situation of tied agriculture labour), but if, however, state bears your expenses, you still have all those choices, made artificially, to compel you to be ‘reasonable’ as in Shaw’s words to live within the societal norms. Many people at some point in time must have dreamt becoming unreasonable, pushing the social boundaries and do something meaningful. IRMA is an opportunity for those who want believe in that dream. <br />‘sky is the limit’<br />Varun<br />32046varunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06303044448649660168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6082091182757859887.post-57556116725749060332012-02-10T12:20:34.467-08:002012-02-10T12:20:34.467-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.varunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06303044448649660168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6082091182757859887.post-15382820539787063482012-02-10T11:34:47.447-08:002012-02-10T11:34:47.447-08:00In the first two cases, due to lack of resources, ...In the first two cases, due to lack of resources, many students make ‘artificial’ choices as they feel a binding force of responsibilities around them. In the third case, due to the ease of availability of resources and a freedom to make one’s own choice, some students neglect the peer pressure and their so called ‘social identity’ to follow their heart instead of their mind.<br />This reminds me of a few lines by Robert Frost: Two roads diverged in a wood…I could not travel both…I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference…<br /><br />Prerna Gupta (32030)Prernahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08599094061380583900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6082091182757859887.post-91877956807800606532012-02-10T05:22:47.320-08:002012-02-10T05:22:47.320-08:00It needs certain type of grooming to get into an i...It needs certain type of grooming to get into an institute like IRMA. In most cases, people from middle class or upper middle class families make it here who have received a certain quality of upbringing that a certain financial backing can afford. Assuming that everyone in life wants to progress in terms not only of career but also money, then choosing to work for the “sector” seems to be “regressing” in life. The better option is like the old times when IRMA paid a stipend during the 2 years against bond to work for cooperatives.<br />Darshit Shah (32062)Darshit Shahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13278923954669445615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6082091182757859887.post-53490364166365132692012-02-09T15:06:34.142-08:002012-02-09T15:06:34.142-08:00Human being has this strange tendency to not to do...Human being has this strange tendency to not to do what he/she is force to do. In childhood parents and teachers ask us to study, share, to exercise etc, we don’t initially, we resist, we question, then we experience, understand and in the end we conform. The more the external factor forces the more the resistance and slower the curative action from a human. A person gets more comfortable in taking an action only after she has internalized the thought behind the action in a conducive environment, i.e. when a person becomes reasonable with the decision on hand. <br />Rajeev (32034)Rajeevhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08782553103765993716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6082091182757859887.post-52916546976608640562012-02-09T14:47:45.483-08:002012-02-09T14:47:45.483-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Rajeevhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08782553103765993716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6082091182757859887.post-84674803227394859842012-02-09T14:18:23.679-08:002012-02-09T14:18:23.679-08:00Talking about quotes in IGB course we learnt intel...Talking about quotes in IGB course we learnt intelligence as the ability to adapt. Had our "reasonable" ancestors not adapted Human Race would not have come this far. We need to consider that <br />IRMA was founded in 1979 in a closed economy.Has IRMA changed its strategy in view of liberalization and the new found wealth? <br />Change is brought by people who are passionate about their work.So even if 5% IRMANs decide to stay in development sector it is in the search of this 5% that "I hope" the institution was founded.Law of Averages. <br />Abhishek Sharma <br />p32051Abhishek Sharmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04216443802486304221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6082091182757859887.post-62867534258252884502012-02-09T11:30:55.140-08:002012-02-09T11:30:55.140-08:00Speaking of extremes what i feel is that the thing...Speaking of extremes what i feel is that the thing we are talking about here is schooling and not education. for me education cant be under such constraints.<br />the current system is a compromise made to run a pre existing form of living. though there is some education happening here but that is not the main product but a by-product.salman haiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12774441484544300515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6082091182757859887.post-13499137783485322102012-02-09T11:17:25.300-08:002012-02-09T11:17:25.300-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.p32021https://www.blogger.com/profile/16084329860463320879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6082091182757859887.post-15237946299151034032012-02-09T11:17:21.781-08:002012-02-09T11:17:21.781-08:00In an ideal scenario a student associates with the...In an ideal scenario a student associates with the mission of institute and decides to join it. Now after joining IRMA and then talking about changing the placement policy is not justified. As an MBA aspirant the student enjoys absolute freedom of choosing the institute. In this context we are talking about complete liberal education.Having made the choice it is unfair to put the policy and ideology of institute under question mark, when the same ideology was praised during the interview.<br /><br />Mayank Gaur<br />p32021p32021https://www.blogger.com/profile/16084329860463320879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6082091182757859887.post-83799295729108212442012-02-09T11:10:49.859-08:002012-02-09T11:10:49.859-08:00Many of my mates have talked about being 'comf...Many of my mates have talked about being 'comfortable' of an unreasonable in some of his choices and then the unreasonable would work in the desired unreasonable manner as mentioned by Bernard. I think that if Unreasonability lies in the comforting of the soul of it, then the person cannot be termed as unreasonable itself. He would be going towards the bonded labour scenario where he is behaving according to what the society considers to be reasonable. We will have to think beyond the shackles of this moribund society to claim the certificate of being an 'unreasonable'.<br />Shubham Tomar<br />32093TOMARSHUBHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07764497235401564330noreply@blogger.com